It is language. The tittle Ghost is from someone whom already passed over. This means that both “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” come from the same basic Greek words. However, knowing that I have the Holy Spirit and that i am living and being Faithful to God in all ways, not just in my Tithes. Tradition has only to do with the teachings of the Church not whether we kneel.To be bent on kneeling alone is to go against the Church. On the other hand, the term “Holy Ghost” was used as a description of the third person or spirit in the Holy Trinity. Not 3 in one. In the Middle Ages, the English Bible was transcribed by Christian translators using different words for a Greek word to signify that there are two distinctions. see Galatians 5: 22-23 The Holy Ghost,The Holy Spirit, Arch Angel Michael (name means who is like God) are the same person, Father Son and Michael are the trinity. at least for advocating for the Holy Spirit. Been baptised with the Holy Ghost and fire is not a baptism onto repentance, it is a baptism unto death!!! I have read many interpretations ore doctrines about the Holy Ghost ore the Holy Spirit. Both Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit were used to refer to the Third Person of the Trinity well before the 20th century, although the former was the most common in biblical and prayer texts. i’m not enough of a linguist to know. As anyone familiar with the KJV will notice, when speaking of the Spirit, the translators were not always consistent. Jesus became the gate way to God. God has been good to you! Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Yet there was no difference in meaning at that time. ‭‭The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of a departed one. Pingback: Mary’s Extraordinary Encounter with the Holy Spirit - Big Pulpit. In the days of King James or Shakespeare, “ghost” meant the live essence of a person which could also be connected to “soul” or “breath” and were considered to be synonymous to “ghost.” In those times, “spirit” was used when pertaining to the departed essence of a person or a paranormal demonic apparition. I really meant to And traditional liturgy is a misnomer. Both the words are used to describe the third part of the Holy Trinity, apart from God and the son of God. so Holy ghost is the third person of trinity John 14/20, Revelation 3/20. commonly used. Of course you are right about the Latin liturgies, in my haste I misspoke. it almost cost us 5 years of friendship, peace and harmony of living on the same apartment complex, I have visited her church she has visited my church. Why so many folks think that the Holy Ghost only opts for the new and different is amazing. It is the Spirit of Christ Jesus. God is a Trinity of Persons, each distinct, and a Unity of Substance (consubstantial). The Spirit of God when you were young? Then Jesus being filled with the Holly Spirit returned from The Jordan and was led by Spirit into the wilderness, there’s no any need to discuss the difference between Holly Spirit and Holly ghost again Ghost is entity from dead. Whereas the Holy Ghost communes the Throne`s `spirit of truth` to us, not seducing us from our *LORD*as evil spirits do, not drawing attention to Himself but to the *WORD*.Ps 138:2. Cherubim = Sheraphim I have had my encounter with God over 1 year now and in my church it is referred to as receiving the Holy Spirit. The only path available to a true Catholic, at this time, is sedevacantism. ; the word for “Spirit” has always been used for Holy Spirit. Peace & get a copy of The Catechism of the Catholic Church from your local parish, it will explain the nature of angels much better than me. 5.In modern times, almost all of the translations of the Bible, except the King James Version, use “Holy Spirit” for all instances. Also the fiery figure before the tabernacle, when Moses spoke to the LORD face to face. “Spirit” sounds dry and impersonal. They all use excuses of language interpretations , understanding of some well known story ore what ever they can find to ignore the truth. In the day God created man , in the likeness of God made he him; male and female created he them and called them Adam!!! World broods with warm breast and with ah! Praise *GOD* for the grace of our *LORD JESUS* 2 Cor 13:14. Trying to show that there is no contradiction between what science tells us about the world and our Catholic faith. It is called the Gift of the Holy Ghost. It is a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy to destroy the Catholic Church from within. The differences are actually in linguistics rather than in a theological sense. Thus, in the last few decades Catholic English translators have preferred spirit to ghost, whether referring to the Holy Spirit or other spirits. You got it wrong holy spirit can come and go holy ghost it is within us and never leaves us or forsakes US. One you cannot pinpoint. The Holy Ghost is only mentioned in the New Testamen for a reason!!! But possibly back then “goost” (or ghost) also had a meaning of spirit of a dead person. Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. We should remember that it took some time for the Patristic Fathers to work out that the Trinity was Three Persons, but one God. Now go and share the joy that you have from being Catholic. Both Spirit and Ghost are perfectly fine. There are three components of this Holy Trinity with the God being the father and Jesus being the son of … ” and Paul Sumner’s Hebrew Streams.) Only than the Spirit of God came down on him and than he received all power from his Father in heaven. The Holy Ghost is most assuredly a Person and hence, personal. Just like the Angel of God protected those 3 persons in the fire , been baptised with the Holy Ghost and fire you shall be superior unto the first and second death. soul) could be more useful when understanding and applying the word to include the overall “personality” of an individual, i.e. Fortescue’s, “The Mass: A Study of the Roman Liturgy” reprinted by Preserving Christian Publications. mpav, I thought pre-Vatican II liturgies were in Latin? Ask God to reveal this mystery to you. Note that in vs. 8 above it was only Peter that was filled with the Holy Spirit, not John. ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Probably something to do with age. The Old Testament foretold the Messiah, but did not name him explicitly as Jesus. Not Weak. 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. Not even middle age and the only parallel I can draw is someone who never went through the depression longing for Prohibition. As early as the first century, St. Clement of Rome gives us important teaching about the Holy Ghost. More than four years ago I posted an article on Catholic Stand, “The Holy Ghost vs The Holy Spirit.” The post got a huge number of hits (for this blog and my articles). In modern times, all the Bible translations, except for the King James Version, use “Holy Spirit” in all instances including those that the KJV called as the “Holy Ghost.”. It also says Christ in you the hope of glory. Jesus only started to do wonder and teaching once he was baptised with water and repentance by John the Baptist. As ever when I’ve come across the term “Holy Ghost”—in the school name or in Anglican Usage liturgy—I’ve wondered why “Holy Ghost” rather than “Holy Spirit”. They are all one, yes. Why not the spirit? We need a return to traditional practices such as: placing tabernacles in the center of the altar, receiving the Eucharist kneeling and on the tongue, traditional Latin liturgy, proper liturgical music (Gregorian Chant), dressing our BEST for Mass, women veiled in Church, and yes, even saying Holy Ghost. There is a difference between the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit, which are of the same substance and quality but not of the same style of quantity. There was respect, affection and insight in this. Read John 14 17:18, You received 2 spirits? It is a new Life. Luke 4:1 Your email address will not be published. It has been said that there is one baptism and many fillings (with the Holy Spirit/Ghost). I told her it was just a matter of translation and oh my! One of the phrases "Holy Spirit" and "Holy Ghost" is generally preferred traditionally by one or another Christian denomination. In Tudor, or Elizabethan, English the words “ghost” and “spirit” meant the same thing. Nontrinitarian Christians, who reject the doctrine of the Trinity, differ significantly from mainstream Christianity in their beliefs about the Holy Spirit. In the Septuagint, the demotic Greek translation of the Old Testament, the Hebrew ruach is universally translated as the Greek pneuma (breath, wind, spirit). . Conclusion: There is no difference between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost. I think that “Ghost” implies personality (as in “Casper the Ghost”) only if we take the meaning of phantasm, spirit of a dead person. 2.The differences in the usage of “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” are mostly due to the nuances of the English language affected by the incorporation of words from other languages. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit; Before Resurrection and after. Answer: Of the modern English translations of the Bible, it is only the King James Version of the Bible which uses the term “Holy Ghost.”. The gist of it was that “ghost” implies personality vs. “spirit” which can mean a lot of things like an impersonal force. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It is just a matter of Translation from the Original written language. This doesn’t all the way collide with me. See the Wikipedia article about the Holy Ghost Fathers, the Spiritan web-site, and the articles about des Places and Liberman. For the majority of Christian denominations, the Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost, is the third person of the Trinity, the Triune God manifested as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each entity itself being God. Our intentions are what it will stand for and that will be what is the correct one to use. 23 24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? Holy Ghost vs Holy Spirit When we talk about Christianity, we often make use of the concept of Holy Trinity to explain the existence of Jesus, the son of God, as being different from God himself. Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. He is separate and distinct from the Father and the Son, yet they all work together in perfect unity. The Holy Ghost was rejected by the fathers of old times just like the Jews did when they crucified Jesus Christ. In each, the “Holy Spirit” directly connects to the Lord God. Read Acts 2:38 KJV The term “Holy Spirit” occurs 7 times in the KJV. It is the creator, the Spirit of God, and is everywhere throughout the universe. However, the right to have the Holy Ghost with you at all times comes from baptism and confirmation in the Lord's true church. Most of all, you are humble like a child. The phrase “Holy Ghost” is simply an older term that dates back several hundred years, and is found in some old versions of the English Bible (such as the King James Version). I’m still researching on this. The same pillar of fire in front of the tabernacle, the same burning bush on the mountain and the same fiery figure King Nebikatnesser saw in the fiery furnes with the 3 he cast into it and no harm came over them. The terms ‘Holy Ghost’ and ‘Holy Spirit’ refer to the same thing. I have researched and researched and I keep getting the same answers. Likewise, the word “ghost” (i.e. DifferenceBetween.net. However, Having the Holy Spirit you must have, live, be a living testimony of the 9 Characteristics that is defined in the Bible of having the Characters of Jesus. The relationship between the Holy Spirit or Light of Christ and every living thing, whether a planet, plant, animal, human or ecosystem is direct, immediate and continual. You see, the Son of God is a fiery figure in a form of a Angel. I love Spiritus Sanctus, and feel Holy Spirit conveys that much better. Most people assume that Holy Ghost is simply an antiquated name for the Holy Spirit, and that Spirit is less ghastly than Ghost. emotions, will, desires, etc. My daughter and I have been at odds over the Holy Ghost argument. Kloque has not presented any ‘dream sheet’ of bygone years, but rather objectively faced issues in a practical manner from what I can see. The Triune God created everything- time, space, Angels, humans, plants, etc. And Matt, I always get the undertone of phantom when I hear “ghost”…that’s why I looked into the etymology. The term Holy Ghost has traditionally been used in older English versions of the Bible, such as the King James Version, which uses the term seven times. Because the word “ghost” has a different meaning today than it did … You have to have this experience for yourself to understand. In the Bible, the title “Holy Ghost” was used 90 times in the New Testament of the KJV while “Holy Spirit” appears 4 times. And in ghost is devilish. Zechariah 4:6. You think Like Jesus, you handle Problems Like Jesus, you forgive, love, be at peace through all adversity like Jesus did. The terms “Holy Spirit” and “Holy Ghost” mean exactly the same thing; both refer to the third Person of the Trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit). **It brought joy to my heart to see students, not nerdy types, talk with humor and eloquence about their education, their classmates (their \”brothers\”) and their teachers. Catholics debating like they want to be right over which one to use seems childish. As the Holy Spirit is the Comforter sent by God, but in order to Heal and cast out demons etc as Paul and Jesus’ Disciples you must have the Holy Ghost. It was a happy and inspiring occasion; he received athletic and academic honors (a grandfather is allowed to brag), and the graduation talks were well delivered, moving, and spirit-filled (unlike many I’ve attended as recipient or in an academic audience).**. The only difference is the way the word was used during the old times and today. Thus, some ancient translations of Scripture, including the King James Version, have the terms Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost referring to the Spirit of God. Praise God for the truth. Cite ‭‭ When you receive the Holy Ghost you receive the Spirit of Jesus Christ. July 5, 2011 < http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/religion-miscellaneous/difference-between-holy-ghost-and-holy-spirit/ >. Cradle Catholic here, pre-Vatican II, and I was raised at a time when Holy Ghost was the normal term in RC liturgies and prayers. Mat_12:31 "Therefore I say to … After Jesus came back to Earth, when he arose on the third day, The Holy Ghost was among them when He ascended back to Heaven. If you are not able to speak in Tongues at least one Time then you have not received the Holy Ghost, she further explained that speaking in Tongues is the assurance that you have the Holy Ghost. Only protestants say "Holy Spirit" or "Sainted Spirit" because they're so ambiguous in English because English is an ambiguous language. For example, the word “ghost” is derived from the Old English word “gast” which is closely related to the German word “geist.” In modern English, the word “gast” sneaked into the word “aghast” which means “to be terrified, shocked, or rendered breathless.” Also, the German word “Zeitgeist” directly means “the spirit of times.”. The Holy Spirit enters our mind, which is also a mystery. In Latin “The Holy Spirit” is called “et Spiritus Sancti”. It is clear they knew the differance in a ghost and a spirit. It’s all “Holy Ghost.”, I’m reminded of a line from an old hymn “Come Holy Ghost, Creator Blest”…. See, Copyright © A.D. 2018 Catholic Stand | Powered by Astra. Holy Ghost vs. Holy SpiritOnly KJV uses “Holy Ghost.” In Christianity, Holy Ghost is used by Pentecostals. as for all the rest, persevere, and be well. No wonder the Holy Father is trying to beat us over the heads to share the faith while some of you can’t get past a language change of 50 years ago. take not thy ruach kodesh (Holy Spirit) from me.” It is found twice in Isaiah 63. Holy Spirit is the spirit of God which came on Mary to conceive Jesus. When the KJV was written, which I read from others as well, I found that the Scholars whom transpose the KJV into English from Greek and Hebrew, they all came together in unity and prayed to decide which English word would be the closest to each word they translated. As a matter of fact, it is the more modern versions that have favored the use of Holy Spirit over Holy Ghost. Mother Mary was most reverent and she stood at the foot of the cross. Amen, as Catholics we acknowledge the Holy Spirit of God’s active presence & work through the Old Testament events, Hebrew nation, & prophets. Learn how your comment data is processed. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God; The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of The Son or Jesus. Before time & space, the Holy Trinity always was. The Holy Spirit is de really state of God not ghost since ghost is de spirit of a dead person. I adapted, even grew to like the new liturgy, About 14 years ago I stumbled into a parish which had a traditional liturgy. John 7:39 The Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost are one and the same. St. Michael (“Who is like God?”) is the strong created angel that dispels those created beings who WRONGLY think they are “like God” or even better, like satan, the fallen angel. Holy Ghost. He had no earthy Father like John had. Then as you matured you received the Holy Ghost? Thank you for your answer but if this is the case why in Psalms 51/11 David mentioned the Holy Ghost? When we go through our Savior to reach God, We really need to go through the Holy Ghost? Adam was male and female, the heavenly man created by God. I don’t see a rejection of the Old Testament in the attempt to make that distinction. The terms “Holy Spirit” and “Holy Ghost” mean exactly the same thing; both refer to the third Person of the Trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit). Thanks Dave and Matt for your comments. If you were a true traditionalist wouldn’t you be at a Maronite Mass? Post was not sent - check your email addresses! And in my opinion, this linguistic distinction ought to be retained – at the very least, to avoid confusing what is being referred to: the Holy Ghost, or the Spirit of the Lord. Whether you are reading something about the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is something that must be determined by the context, not the language used. to behold. The lake of fire and brimstone is the second death. There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. Holy Spirit therefore is now universally used in all official texts, and over the last 50 years or so has become common usage. John 4:24 It is the creator, the Spirit of God, and is everywhere throughout the universe. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. I have both versions on my phone as I use KJV for my morning devotion and the NKJV my Midday Meditation and at our church. I can not begin to tell you how revolting these traditional practices are to those who are hell bent on seeing the Church become modernized, Protestantized, pro-choice, pro-homosexual, accept female priests, and the many other assaults hurled upon Christ’s Holy Church. The same Holy Ghost that they were filled with is the same Holy Spirit that gave them the power to speak in tongues. Your dream sheet of bygone years is almost sad Word Study: Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit Page 2 KJV NKJV Hebrew / TR Greek Mat_12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. The words “Son of God” is only mentioned once in the Old Testament: Daniel 3: 24 – 25 But Stong and Humble. There is no need to resubmit your comment. To help the man who was alone and as meat (perpouse) for the man she was taken from. The Holy Ghost is the permanent presence of Jesus as a resurrected body in you. And she said, that was all I needed to confirm that I had the Holy Ghost. Before these things, there was the Holy Trinity, Not angels. There is only one Spirit. The reason Holy Ghost is a more proper term in referring to God is because the Holy Ghost is a spirit but it has no body so when it speaks through others it’s presence seems like that of a ghost. I can’t help but love Holy Ghost, as to my ears it is more poetic and personal. The only difference is the way the word was used during the old times and today. But with the most recent translations of the Holy Scriptures, the title “Spirit” is used to replace “Ghost” in almost all instances. I don’t need proof…but if I did just seeing the anger and vile reactions from those opposed to the traditional practices I mentioned are enough proof to show me I am on the right side. Then the answer seemed very obvious to me. I grew up with the old ways. The problem is Organized Religion in whole, I think we should say what we want and feel or what naturally comes out. You are so correct! As Pope Benedict XVI said: “Christians do not read the Old Testament for its own sake but always with Christ and through Christ, as a voyage to Truth through continuing Revelation.”. Can we all get a grip? It is what Jesus says you are to have. The distinction is valuable theologically. In the Greek New Testament, only the term pneuma (in its various grammatical forms) is used for “Spirit”. John 14:17 “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” English speakers have been substituting Holy Spirit for Holy Ghost for at least five decades. The phrase “Holy Ghost” is simply an older term that dates back several hundred years, and is found in some old versions of the English Bible (such as the King James Version). Modern English users rarely use “Holy Ghost” nowadays. I was born in 1977 so these practices are not what I grew up with, however, by the grace of God I see now how necessary it is to live my faith this way and raise my children accordingly. The true Catholic Faith (as revealed through Christ Jesus) has always held the angels (including St. Michael) as created beings (part of the spiritual creation) NOT Creator. When you receive the this you will understand why Jesus said what he said. 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